Executive Council Meeting

July 9, 2001
Muncie, IN


The Nominating Committee, chaired by B. Oberdieck (VII), met at 8:00 a.m.
The regular meeting of the Executive Council was called to order at 9:25 a.m., by the President who chaired the meeting.

INTRODUCTIONSPresident Dave Brown, Hamilton, OH; Executive Vice President Doug Holland, Raleigh, NC; District Vice Presidents: I-Don Krafft, Duxbury, MA; II-Dave Mathewson, Camillus, NY; III-Bob Brown, Bradford, PA; IV-Chuck Foreman, Kill Devil Hills, NC; V-Jim McNeill, Birmingham, AL; VI-Charlie Bauer, Norridge, IL; VII-Bill Oberdieck, Southgate, MI; VIII-Sandy Frank, Weatherford, TX; IX-Russ Miller, Carrington, ND; X-Rich Hanson, Scottsdale, AZ; XI-Bruce Nelson, Spokane, WA; NAA Representative Don Koranda,;Executive Director Joyce Hager; recording secretary JoAnne Brown; General Counsel Felix Gora. 

Present from the Academy's staff: Jay Mealy, Rob Kurek and Carl Maroney. Also in attendance were Joe Vislay District III AVP and Bob Underwood District VI AVP and member of the Scholarship Committee.


The President informed Council that they would meet in Executive Session some time during the meeting.

  • There has been some concern expressed involving over-fly of people from the scale site. At the time the field was designed there was no problem. Over the past seven years however, scale models have become larger and faster. When the diagonal runway is used it has increased the area over which they fly during a normal flight. This is viewed as a safety concern. The Nats Management Committee has addressed this situation at the last two meetings and has been unable to provide a solution. It was agreed to have the PADCOM Committee address the situation for a possible long term solution.
MOTION I: Moved by J. McNeill (V), seconded by C. Bauer (VI), To close the diagonal runway during RC Scale at the Nationals. MOTION withdrawn.
MOTION II: Moved by J. McNeill (V), seconded by C. Bauer (VI), To close the diagonal runway for RC Scale at the Nationals, pending further action by Executive Council. MOTION passed. 12 yes; 
1 abstain (VIII)
  • Situation at Moffit Field. Site had been condemned when lead paint was found, but has since reopened for possible public access. This site had been utilized for a program called The Youth Interactive Aeronautics Program, spearheaded by George Xenakis. They would like to have access to the facility on a quarterly basis, but the Ames Research Center is requiring a memorandum of understanding as to it's use, between AMA and NASA Ames. The President has a draft of an agreement that will be reviewed by AMA's attorneys. He indicated that a Contest Director and sanction would be required during the groups access. There was no opposition to the President signing the agreement after legal review.
  • Free memberships for Science Olympiad regional winners and TSA national winners. (approximately 50-60 a year). This would be good exposure for the AMA. There was no opposition by Council.
  • The President attended the Indoor Nationals. He stated that he saw more youth involved in that event than he has seen at any event, in quite a long time. Six of the youth entered and qualified for the indoor junior world champion team selection program (one 17 year old will be entered as an open member).
  • It was reported that as of June 29, AMA has 22,018 youth members; undoubtedly the largest number ever reported.
  • FAA Advisory Circular AC 91-57 (dated June 9, 1981). The AMA Safety Code is somewhat structured around this original document. AMA's director of Special Services was contacted by an FAA employee with regard to a re-write of this particular document. It was suggested that Jay Mealy and Don Koranda meet with Mr. Stinchcomb and solicit what precipitated the re-write and determine if the AMA needs to be involved.(Appendix)
  • Scholarship Report. There were 45 applicants this year. Council was given a quick overview of the criteria used for determining scholarship winners. The Weak Signals Scholarship Fund has donated $3,500.00 to the scholarship fund. This amount is awarded to the number one winner of the Grant Scholarship. (Appendix)

It was moved by R. Miller (IX), seconded by C. Foreman (IV), and approved by acclamation, To accept the Scholarship Committee's Report.

10:50 a.m. Break; Executive Session 11:00 a.m.-12:10 p.m.; Lunch 12:10 p.m.

The regular meeting of the Executive Council resumed at 1:00 p.m.

It was approved by acclamation to accept the Minutes of the April 28, 2001 Executive Council Meeting.


  • Will start organizing the program for debt reduction (brick program, plaque, etc.), and charitable remainder trust.
  • The EVP is working with a lawyer on separating AMA's assets. Suggestions will be brought to Council for review prior to any action being taken. Funding for legal expenses are already in place.
  • A Common Paymaster has now been set up.


  • Celebration of Eagles- 300 people participated on site; 225 at the banquet. Legion of Champions Awards (developed by AMA headquarters) were presented. This award is given in recognition of contributions to the AMA (financial or through efforts). Individuals who received the award had given a single gift of at least $5,000 to the Academy. Industries that received the award were in business for at least 50 years.
  • Grand Event- Approximately 2000 vehicles through the gate; 300 kites, 300 rockets, built and flown; 600 free flight aircraft built and flown; 150 Get Wings program participants (flight simulator instruction and buddy box); RC Car track was busy all day. Flew 95 youngsters in the Young Eagles program. The numbers indicated are comparable to last year, however, this year's event was only one day.
  • Building Dedication- Had a large number of people waiting at the doors to tour the new headquarters facility Thursday evening. Thanks to those who pitched in and assisted with the tours. Between 300-350 people took part in the dedication ceremony.
  • Flying Sites- Wes DeCou is working with R. Hanson on procuring flying sites. An organization of clubs has come together and are now flying at El Toro (a closed Marine Air Station). Wes represented AMA at a congressional hearing of a resource allocation committee hearing. The AMA President feels that there is the need to establish a long range plan to have full time lobbyists in Washington, D.C. It was suggested that the President should go live on the Internet once a month to communicate with members.

Joe Beshar has been successful in obtaining use of Gov. Alfred E. Smith/Sunken Meadow State Park for model airplane flying; and is making inroads on a situation at the Naval Academy of Annapolis (MD).
Results of the flying site survey will be sent to Council within the next week.

  • Park Flyers- The brochure developed addressing the park flyer issue was presented at the NRHSA show in Las Vegas, and is being distributed through hobby shops and manufacturer and distributor shipments. It is hoped that this will enlighten clubs on how to handle the situation. Air Age Publications has a magazine specifically aimed at park flyers, and the Academy will be taking out an AMA ad in that magazine. It is felt this publication will be getting out to the non-conventional model airplane flyer and it is an opportunity to introduce those potential members to the AMA. A bullet list of items aimed at assisting clubs in working with park flyers is on the web site parkflyer.org .

  • D. Koranda reported he recently returned from Spain where the 2nd World Air Games were held. The concept of these games (which includes modeling) is that all the air sports can come together and be seen at one time and the desired result is extensive media exposure. It was also anticipated that it would generate revenue for the air sport activities. The consensus was that the event did not meet the anticipated goals. There will be a re-evaluation of the world air game concept. The FAI realized that not all air sports are as attractive commercially for video and tv rights as they would like. Koranda will push internally for managerial/structural changes.
  • FAI- Concerns with the SWG (Structural Working Group). The group would restructure the dues where as larger members would pay more. Koranda is in opposition to this change, and will resist unless it shows a real benefit to all air sport groups.
  • NAA- The NAA has terminated their agreement with the Helicopter Club of America. Koranda is working with the AMA President on the sporting license issue. The NAA will be partnering with the CAP during their National Congress on Aerospace Education in a conference discussing national goals with regard to aerospace education. The need is for a national policy and a way to implement it. Gordon Schimmel of the AMA Education Committee will be involved.


Nominating Committee-Oberdieck (Appendix I)Committee met at 8:00 a.m. As a result of discussion during the meeting, the committee chairman requested the President appoint an ad hoc committee to study and review the procedures of the Nominating Committee. The newly formed Nominating Procedures Committee will be chaired by C. Foreman (IV), with members D. Krafft (I) and B. Oberdieck (VII). A report will be given at the October council meeting.

It was moved by J. McNeill (V), seconded by C. Foreman (IV), and approved by acclamation, to accept the minutes of the Nominating Committee.

Safety Committee-Maroney (Appendix II)Council received a comprehensive report on the items the Safety Committee addressed. Discussion included the following items: Home Built/Kit turbine engines and the USRCJC Proposal; Giant Scale Racing; Night Flying; 2002 Safety Code changes; Safety Regulations for Model Aircraft Turbines; and Experimental Aircraft.

Home Built/Kit turbine engines and the USRCJC Proposal- A proposal received from the USRCJC was reviewed, noting that the engines are for personal use only and can not be sold to another person.

It was moved by R. Miller (IX), seconded by R. Hanson (X), and approved by acclamation, To approve the regulations as submitted by the USRCJC (United States Radio Control Jet Command) and accepted by the Safety Committee, on Home Built Turbine Engines.

Giant Scale Racing- USRA is the AMA recognized SIG for unlimited racers. They have requested that their rules substitute AMA's rules. The Safety Committee believes the AMA rules should remain, but be modified with USRA's, resulting in one set of rules. Council requested a clarification from the USRA group on their reasoning for a change in the distance for the Lap Counters/Timers. This item was referred back to the Safety Committee for further consideration. Safety Committee should also review items #3 and 11 under Aircraft and Pilots in the Giant Scale Racing proposal.

Night Flying- This item refers to radio control night flying of low performance models. The Safety Committee recommends its addition to the Safety Code. The President explained that this is being presented as a guideline.

MOTION III: Moved by R. Miller (IX), seconded by B. Nelson (XI), To accept the Safety Committee's recommended change to the Safety Code relative to night flying. AR/C Night Flying is limited to low performance models (less than 100 m.p.h.). The models must be equipped with a lighting system that clearly defines the aircrafts attitude at all times. MOTION passed. 9 yes; 3 no (II, VI, X).

Rewrite of Safety Code- The Safety Committee chairman assigned a subcommittee to rewrite the code. The subcommittee suggested deleting item #7 under the general section of the code. The President explained the genesis of this item.

It was approved by a majority, to keep Item 7 under the General Section of the Safety Code.

Council agreed to delete Item 10 under the General Section of the Safety Code. A section on gas turbines has been added to the code.

The Safety Committee proposed the following addition (item 7C. under Organized RC Racing Event) to the Safety Code. AC. Distance from pylon to nearest spectator(s) must be not less than 400 feet from the pylon center line for two pylon events and not less than 300 feet from the pylon nearest to spectators for three pylon events. It was felt that the wording needs to be reworked for a better description of the distance separation. C. Maroney will compose wording to be circulated for a mail vote by Council. (Include copy of rule book portion with vote.)

There was a brief discussion on item 11 of the code. After review, it was determined that clubs are doing a good job policing their own situations and no changes are deemed necessary.

It was approved by acclamation to accept the Safety Committee's proposed 2002 Safety Code, with changes as directed by the Executive Council.

Note: As clarification, the President confirmed that RADIO CONTROL Item 5 of the AMA National Model Aircraft Safety Code requiring a frequency sharing agreement, refers to individuals, as well as clubs.

Safety Regulations for Model Aircraft Gas Turbines- The change to Item 1, allows home built engines, which were previously approved by Council. The change to Item 11 is merely an update. Add to Item 18 C, AOne of the CD's has to be an accepted Contest Director from the AMA Accepted Turbine Flight Sign Off list. This item is effective January 1, 2002.@

It was moved by R. Miller (IX), seconded by C. Bauer (VI), and approved by acclamation, To accept the Safety Committee's recommended changes to the Safety Regulation for Model Aircraft Gas Turbine document.

The Safety Committee noted there were some inconsistencies in the document for Experimental Aircraft (over 55 lbs.) The committee will send a letter to the IMAA asking that they review it, and make recommendations to the Safety Committee within 90 days.

Following a brief discussion on the Grand Event and Homecoming, the Executive Director was charged with looking into possible separation of the two events and possibly making it a week long event.

The EVP stated that funds will be included in the general committee budget, to be used for committee chairman attendance at Executive Council meetings.

Sanctions & Liabilities-OberdieckThe chairman noted that this is a very involved issue and requested the committee continue with a more in depth study of the issues. Council agreed to the concept that AMA only sanction rule book events, and register non-rule book events.


Contest Directors (ad hoc)-McNeill (Appendix III)The Committee presented two items; a description for Contest Director, and the censorship of a Contest Director. The committee extracted description items from existing documents (rule book, membership manual), and suggestions from committee members.

It was approved by acclamation, To accept the Contest Director Committee's recommended description of a Contest Director, with changes. (All references to "agents" is replaced with "representative"; delete the last sentence of paragraph 2, "Negligence" on the part of.....for the CD and for AMA.) This description item will be placed in the Standing Rules and the Membership Manual.

CD censorship- After reviewing the document, some council members preferred the option of allowing the district vice president to suspend a CD's license on the spot for egregious misconduct or offense. Some felt that any officer (including the President and EVP) should be afforded this authority. Consensus of Council was to provide any AMA elected officer the authority to suspend the CD license immediately (B. Nelson's version).

The Committee is charged with incorporating the ideas expressed and presenting a revised document for a mail vote. This vote is needed prior to the deadline for Membership Manual material.

Camp Jeep-Foreman (Appendix)There is a chance that this event may expand to two or three other areas next year. C. Foreman provided a packet of material he used to coordinate the model aviation portion of the event, as reference for other VP's in the event it comes to their district. This also shows where the money allocated by Council went.

It was moved by C. Foreman (IV), seconded by B. Nelson (XI), and approved by acclamation, that individuals who donate their time (four-eight hour days or equivalent in hours) at a single major event as designated by Council, will receive an earned membership. Effective immediately.

It was moved by C. Foreman (IV), seconded by C. Bauer (VI), and approved by acclamation, that Camp Jeep shall be considered a designated event for purposes of earned membership.


Approve funding for Tehama County Condors-HansonIt was pointed out that this club has leased 12 acres from The Christian Boys Ranch and aspire to develop it into a premier flying site. The site would be open to all AMA members. The District VP suggested alternative ways for raising funds but the club wished to bring the request before Council. It was suggested that guidelines be developed for issuance of the grants. The District VI VP has offered to develop some guidelines and will present them to the EC at a later date.

MOTION IV Moved b R. Hanson (X), seconded by B. Nelson (XI), The AMA Executive Council approve the funding request from the Tehama County Condors Model Airplane Club as presented in the attached proposal. It is further moved that the AMA Executive Council approve funding in the form of grant from the Flying Site Assistance Fund in the amount of $2,500.00. MOTION failed. 
5 yes; 
7 no (II, IV, V, VII, VIII, IX, EVP).

Postage Increase Discussion-HQThe Executive Director informed council that the post office is issuing a postal increase for 2002.It was determined that this increase will be publicized by the AMA, and member will realize that it will affect the Academy. The ED and EVP will discuss a possible dues increase for 2003 to combat this expense. The editor noted that AMA realized a 12% increase in cost for sending out the magazine last year.

Product Review Discussion-HQ (Appendix)The Director of Publications stated that AMA is currently doing product reviews by virtue of allowing writers and columnists to talk about products. The desire is to do it in a similar format as other magazines. The President noted that for many years council was uncomfortable with doing product reviews. The committee is still considering what will happen to the products after they are reviewed. The Publication Committee should be involved.


MOTION V: Moved by S. Frank (VIII), seconded by D. Mathewson (II), To accept the proposal titled Model Aviation Product Review position paper. MOTION  passed. 
10 yes; 
2 no (VI, VII).


The President reiterated that the procedure for appointing a member to a contest board requires the VP to contact the special interest group involved and solicit their recommendation. This does not mandate that the VP appoint the SIG recommendation, only that they consider that person.


October 5, 2001 - Budget Meeting
October 27-28, 2001 - Executive Council Meeting
Council observed a moment of silence for George Aldrich.
Meeting adjourned at 7:35 p.m.

Note: The NAA Representative was not present for the following votes.